Aller directement au contenu
  • Catégories
  • Récent
  • Mots-clés
  • Populaire
  • Web
  • Utilisateurs
  • Groupes
Habillages
  • Clair
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Sombre
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Défaut (Aucun habillage)
  • Aucun habillage
Réduire

NodeBB

  1. Accueil
  2. General Discussion
  3. Linux
  4. Tuxedo 17 (en Ubuntu 24) + GIGABYTE AORUS RTX 5060 Ti AI Box Carte Graphique - 16GB GDDR7.

Tuxedo 17 (en Ubuntu 24) + GIGABYTE AORUS RTX 5060 Ti AI Box Carte Graphique - 16GB GDDR7.

Planifié Épinglé Verrouillé Déplacé Linux
67 Messages 2 Publieurs 1.1k Vues
  • Du plus ancien au plus récent
  • Du plus récent au plus ancien
  • Les plus votés
Répondre
  • Répondre à l'aide d'un nouveau sujet
Se connecter pour répondre
Ce sujet a été supprimé. Seuls les utilisateurs avec les droits d'administration peuvent le voir.
  • Tuxedo17T En ligne
    Tuxedo17T En ligne
    Tuxedo17
    écrit dernière édition par
    #47

    Log complet :

    # dmesg | grep NVRM
    [    3.712324] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX Open Kernel Module for x86_64  610.43.03  Release Build  (dvs-builder@U22-I3-AD05-33-5)  Tue Jun 30 23:47:20 UTC 2026
    [    5.869931] NVRM: GPU0 nvAssertOkFailedNoLog: Assertion failed: Invalid data passed [NV_ERR_INVALID_DATA] (0x00000025) returned from PlatformRequestHandler failed to get target temp from SBIOS @ platform_request_handler_ctrl.c:2174
    [    5.869938] NVRM: GPU0 nvAssertOkFailedNoLog: Assertion failed: Invalid data passed [NV_ERR_INVALID_DATA] (0x00000025) returned from PlatformRequestHandler failed to get platform power mode from SBIOS @ platform_request_handler_ctrl.c:2117
    [   80.369416] NVRM: GPU1 objClInitPcieChipset: *** Unable to get PCI port handles
    [  171.397600] NVRM: GPU at PCI:0000:05:00: GPU-5d8d2eb1-648d-e52f-369a-26f078362f02
    [  171.397604] NVRM: GPU Board Serial Number: 0
    [  171.397604] NVRM: Xid (PCI:0000:05:00): 79, GPU has fallen off the bus.
    [  171.397610] NVRM: GPU 0000:05:00.0: GPU has fallen off the bus.
    [  171.397611] NVRM: GPU 0000:05:00.0: GPU serial number is 0.
    [  171.397615] NVRM: krcRcAndNotifyAllChannels_IMPL: RC all channels for critical error 79.
    [  171.397622] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
    [  171.397628] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
    [  171.397632] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
    [  171.397635] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
    [  171.397640] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
    [  171.397645] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
    [  171.397648] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
    [  171.397651] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
    [  171.447520] NVRM: prbEncStartAlloc: Can't allocate memory for protocol buffers.
    [  171.447521] NVRM: A GPU crash dump has been created. If possible, please run
                   NVRM: nvidia-bug-report.sh as root to collect this data before
                   NVRM: the NVIDIA kernel module is unloaded.
    [  171.497446] NVRM: nvGpuOpsReportFatalError: uvm encountered global fatal error 0x60, requiring os reboot to recover.
    
    
    1 réponse Dernière réponse
    0
    • Tuxedo17T En ligne
      Tuxedo17T En ligne
      Tuxedo17
      écrit dernière édition par
      #48

      Test :
      sudo nvidia-smi -pm ENABLED;
      sudo nvidia-smi -lgc 1000,2000;

      [  586.874754] [drm] Initialized nvidia-drm 0.0.0 for 0000:05:00.0 on minor 0
      [  586.875976] nvidia 0000:05:00.0: [drm] Cannot find any crtc or sizes
      [  586.875994] pci 0000:05:00.1: extending delay after power-on from D3hot to 20 msec
      [  586.876033] pci 0000:05:00.1: D0 power state depends on 0000:05:00.0
      [  586.876184] snd_hda_intel 0000:05:00.1: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
      [  586.876324] snd_hda_intel 0000:05:00.1: Disabling MSI
      [  586.876335] snd_hda_intel 0000:05:00.1: Handle vga_switcheroo audio client
      [  586.876368] snd_hda_intel 0000:05:00.1: number of I/O streams is 30, forcing separate stream tags
      [  586.977742] hdaudio hdaudioC2D0: no AFG or MFG node found
      [  586.977758] hdaudio hdaudioC2D1: no AFG or MFG node found
      [  586.977769] hdaudio hdaudioC2D2: no AFG or MFG node found
      [  586.977780] hdaudio hdaudioC2D3: no AFG or MFG node found
      [  586.977790] hdaudio hdaudioC2D4: no AFG or MFG node found
      [  586.977800] hdaudio hdaudioC2D5: no AFG or MFG node found
      [  586.977810] hdaudio hdaudioC2D6: no AFG or MFG node found
      [  586.977820] hdaudio hdaudioC2D7: no AFG or MFG node found
      [  586.977822] snd_hda_intel 0000:05:00.1: no codecs initialized
      [  586.977847] snd_hda_intel 0000:05:00.1: GPU sound probed, but not operational: please add a quirk to driver_denylist
      [  644.756905] NVRM: GPU at PCI:0000:05:00: GPU-5d8d2eb1-648d-e52f-369a-26f078362f02
      [  644.756912] NVRM: GPU Board Serial Number: 0
      [  644.756913] NVRM: Xid (PCI:0000:05:00): 79, GPU has fallen off the bus.
      [  644.756920] NVRM: GPU 0000:05:00.0: GPU has fallen off the bus.
      [  644.756922] NVRM: GPU 0000:05:00.0: GPU serial number is 0.
      [  644.756929] NVRM: krcRcAndNotifyAllChannels_IMPL: RC all channels for critical error 79.
      [  644.756948] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.756961] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.756966] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.756970] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.756973] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.756977] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.756981] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.756985] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.756988] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.756993] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.756998] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.757003] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.757011] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.757018] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.757021] pcieport 0000:04:03.0: Unable to change power state from D3hot to D0, device inaccessible
      [  644.757022] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.757026] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.757028] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.757031] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.757035] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.757039] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.757043] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.757046] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.757049] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.757053] NVRM: _threadNodeCheckTimeout: API_GPU_ATTACHED_SANITY_CHECK failed!
      [  644.757058] NVRM: prbEncStartAlloc: Can't allocate memory for protocol buffers.
      [  644.757060] NVRM: A GPU crash dump has been created. If possible, please run
                     NVRM: nvidia-bug-report.sh as root to collect this data before
                     NVRM: the NVIDIA kernel module is unloaded.
      [  644.757269] pcieport 0000:00:07.0: pciehp: Slot(0): Link Down
      
      1 réponse Dernière réponse
      0
      • fariasF Hors-ligne
        fariasF Hors-ligne
        farias
        écrit dernière édition par
        #49

        As per Xid errors list (check PDF), the error 79 (GPU has fallen off the bus) can be related to variety of things such as driver or hardware issue, system memory corruption, bus error or thermal issue (overheating).

        Run NVIDIA X Server Settings app (which comes with the drivers) and check the temperature, graphic clock, performance levels and GPU utilization levels.

        The following post (based on this original thread), suggests to disable PCI-E ASPM (Active State Power Management) by changing boot params to pcie_aspm=off (it forcibly disables PCIe ASPM).

        Related bug report: GPU has fallen off the bus.

        Other reasons for ‘GPU has fallen off the bus’ errors

        System overheating. Suggestions:
            Check temperature by nvidia-smi or use NVIDIA Settings GUI app.
            Alternatively use sensors command (install: sudo apt install lm-sensors && sudo sensors-detect) or psensor GUI app.
        
        PSU (Power Supply Unit) wattage doesn't meet requirements of your card(s). Suggestions:
            Check power usage by nvidia-smi command.
            To monitor usage in real-time, run: watch -n10 nvidia-smi.
            Consider reducing GPU/CPU load.
        
        Driver issues (unstable or due to bugs). Suggestions:
        
            Update nvidia drivers. The easiest way is to install latest CUDA libraries to avoid mismatch, e.g. sudo apt upgrade cuda-12-8.
        
            Check GPU errors (e.g. look for stack traces) in more details via less /var/log/kern.log. This can help narrow down the issue.
        
            Consider adjusting some drivers settings. E.g.
        
              $ cat /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf 
              options nvidia NVreg_DynamicPowerManagement=0
              options nvidia NVreg_EnableGpuFirmwareLogs=2
              options nvidia NVreg_EnablePCIeGen3=1
              options nvidia NVreg_EnableResizableBar=1
              options nvidia NVreg_EnableStreamMemOPs=1
              options nvidia NVreg_InitializeSystemMemoryAllocations=1
              options nvidia NVreg_PreserveVideoMemoryAllocations=1
              options nvidia NVreg_ResmanDebugLevel=2
              options nouveau modeset=0
              blacklist nouveau
        
            Especially NVreg_EnableGpuFirmwareLogs or NVreg_ResmanDebugLevel can generate more logs to help to debug the issue. Once edited, run sudo update-initramfs -u to apply on the next reboot.
        
            For check for other supported parameters, run: modinfo nvidia.
        
            After reboot, keep monitoring logs by sudo dmesg, tail -f /var/log/kern.log or sudo journalctl -kf.
        
            Consider upgrading BIOS firmware.
        
        Kernel timeout issues (e.g. Error while waiting for GPU progress). Suggestions:
            Increase timeout by echo 600 | sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs. For permanent change, set kernel.hung_task_timeout_secs=600 in newly created /etc/sysctl.d/44-hung_task_timeout_secs.conf file. Or use 0 to disable.
        
        Hardware issues. Suggestions:
            Ensure your card(s) are properly screwed and cables are connected correctly.
            Ensure you don't move with any cables by accident while card is in use (GPU/monitor cables).
            Try switching GPU to different slots.
            For multiple GPUs, try disable one by one. On some motherboards, you can find small switches to do that without need to take the cards physically.
            Contact your company which assembled your PC, alternatively NVIDIA support (forum or technical support).
        
        1 réponse Dernière réponse
        0
        • fariasF Hors-ligne
          fariasF Hors-ligne
          farias
          écrit dernière édition par
          #50

          Test also :

            nvidia-smi -pm 1                                                                                                                                        
            nvidia-smi -lgc 1000,1000                                                                                                                               
            nvidia-smi -pl 150     
          
          1 réponse Dernière réponse
          0
          • fariasF Hors-ligne
            fariasF Hors-ligne
            farias
            écrit dernière édition par
            #51

            Install : https://github.com/lokmantsui/aorus-5090-egpu/tree/nvidia-610.43.02-ubuntu-5060ti

            1 réponse Dernière réponse
            0
            • Tuxedo17T En ligne
              Tuxedo17T En ligne
              Tuxedo17
              écrit dernière édition par
              #52

              Install : https://github.com/apnex/nvidia-driver-injector

              sudo git clone https://github.com/apnex/nvidia-driver-injector /root/nvidia-driver-injector
              cd /root/nvidia-driver-injector
              sudo ./scripts/apply.sh
              
              1 réponse Dernière réponse
              0
              • Tuxedo17T En ligne
                Tuxedo17T En ligne
                Tuxedo17
                écrit dernière édition par
                #53

                Résultat :

                # sudo ./scripts/apply.sh
                
                === 0/10 conflict check (apnex/aorus-5090-egpu artifacts?) ===
                  no aorus-egpu artifacts detected
                
                === 1/10 kernel cmdline (grubby) ===
                  grubby not present (non-Fedora-family host?). Set the following
                  kernel cmdline args yourself, by whatever means your distro uses:
                    iommu=off
                    intel_iommu=off
                    thunderbolt.host_reset=false
                    pcie_aspm.policy=performance
                    thunderbolt.clx=0
                    pcie_port_pm=off
                  AORUS GPU not currently enumerated; can't auto-set
                  pci=resource_alignment. Plug in the eGPU and re-run, or set
                  the arg manually using the bridge BDF above your GPU.
                
                === 2/10 kernel-devel for 6.17.0-122035-tuxedo ===
                  kernel-devel present at /lib/modules/6.17.0-122035-tuxedo/build
                
                === 3/10 gpu UNIX group + GID-rewrite in modprobe.d ===
                  gpu group exists (gid=987)
                
                === 4/10 /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-driver-injector.conf ===
                  installed /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-driver-injector.conf (NVreg_DeviceFileGID=987)
                
                === 5/10 nvidia-driver-injector-bridge-link-cap (binary + systemd unit) ===
                  bridge-link-cap installed + enabled
                
                === 6/10 udev rules ===
                  udev rules installed (perms + audio-disable)
                
                === 7/10 Vulkan/EGL/OpenCL ICD disable ===
                  /usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/nvidia_icd.x86_64.json not present (driver may not have shipped this ICD)
                  /usr/share/vulkan/implicit_layer.d/nvidia_layers.json already disabled
                  /usr/share/glvnd/egl_vendor.d/10_nvidia.json already disabled
                  /etc/OpenCL/vendors/nvidia.icd already disabled
                
                === 8/10 apply bridge-link-cap now (without rebooting) ===
                  GPU not currently enumerated; cap will apply at next boot
                
                === 9/10 k3s integration (containerd runtime + RuntimeClass) ===
                  k3s not present on this host; skipping k3s integration
                  (re-run with k3s installed, or pass --skip-k3s to silence this)
                
                === 10/10 summary ===
                Layer 1 install complete.
                
                Next steps:
                  1. Bring up the injector — pick a path:
                       # Path A (dev / single-host): docker-compose
                       cd /root/nvidia-driver-injector && docker compose up -d
                
                       # Path B (recommended for production): k3s DaemonSet
                       cd /root/nvidia-driver-injector && kubectl apply -f k8s/daemonset.yaml
                       kubectl rollout status -n kube-system ds/nvidia-driver-injector
                
                  2. Once ready, bring up your GPU consumer (e.g., vLLM):
                     - Path A: cd /path/to/workload && docker compose up -d
                     - Path B: see docs/consumer-contract.md (nodeSelector +
                               runtimeClassName: nvidia)
                
                
                1 réponse Dernière réponse
                0
                • Tuxedo17T En ligne
                  Tuxedo17T En ligne
                  Tuxedo17
                  écrit dernière édition par
                  #54

                  Fichier : /etc/default/grub

                  GRUB_DEFAULT=0
                  GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden
                  GRUB_TIMEOUT=0
                  GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR='tuxedo'
                  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT='quiet splash'
                  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
                  

                  Après

                  GRUB_DEFAULT=0
                  GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden
                  GRUB_TIMEOUT=0
                  GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR='tuxedo'
                  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT='quiet splash'
                  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="iommu=off intel_iommu=off thunderbolt.host_reset=false pcie_aspm.policy=performance thunderbolt.clx=0 pcie_port_pm=off pci=resource_alignment"
                  
                  

                  Update :

                  # sudo update-grub
                  Sourcing file `/etc/default/grub'
                  Sourcing file `/etc/default/grub.d/50-tuxedo-fix-nvidia-preserve-vram-suspend.cfg'
                  Sourcing file `/etc/default/grub.d/90-tuxedo.cfg'
                  Sourcing file `/etc/default/grub.d/tuxedo-theme.cfg'
                  Generating grub configuration file ...
                  Found theme: /usr/share/grub/themes/tuxedo/theme.txt
                  Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-6.17.0-122035-tuxedo
                  Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-6.17.0-122035-tuxedo
                  Found memtest86+ 64bit EFI image: /boot/memtest86+x64.efi
                  Warning: os-prober will be executed to detect other bootable partitions.
                  Its output will be used to detect bootable binaries on them and create new boot entries.
                  Adding boot menu entry for UEFI Firmware Settings ...
                  done
                  
                  1 réponse Dernière réponse
                  0
                  • Tuxedo17T En ligne
                    Tuxedo17T En ligne
                    Tuxedo17
                    écrit dernière édition par
                    #55

                    Misère …

                    # llama-bench -m /models/gemma-3-1b-it-q4_k_m.gguf 
                    ggml_cuda_init: failed to initialize CUDA: unknown error
                    | model                          |       size |     params | backend    | ngl |            test |                  t/s |
                    | ------------------------------ | ---------: | ---------: | ---------- | --: | --------------: | -------------------: |
                    | gemma3 1B Q4_K - Medium        | 762.49 MiB |   999.89 M | CUDA       |  -1 |           pp512 |        393.02 ± 6.23 |
                    | gemma3 1B Q4_K - Medium        | 762.49 MiB |   999.89 M | CUDA       |  -1 |           tg128 |         48.85 ± 1.55 |
                    
                    build: c3d47e696 (10030)
                    
                    #  lsmod | grep nvidia_uvm
                    # modprobe nvidia_uvm
                    modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:1084 command_do() Error running install command '/bin/false' for module nvidia_uvm: retcode 1
                    modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'nvidia_uvm': Invalid argument
                    
                    1 réponse Dernière réponse
                    0
                    • Tuxedo17T En ligne
                      Tuxedo17T En ligne
                      Tuxedo17
                      écrit dernière édition par
                      #56

                      Je vias donc faire une purge :

                      sudo nvidia-uninstall
                      sudo apt purge -y '^nvidia-*' '^libnvidia-*'
                      sudo rm -r /var/lib/dkms/nvidia
                      sudo apt -y autoremove
                      sudo update-initramfs -c -k `uname -r`
                      sudo update-grub2
                      

                      Et une reinstallation :

                      # bash ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-610.43.03.run -m=kernel-open
                      
                      
                      1 réponse Dernière réponse
                      0
                      • Tuxedo17T En ligne
                        Tuxedo17T En ligne
                        Tuxedo17
                        écrit dernière édition par
                        #57

                        Nouveau test :

                        # git clone https://github.com/lokmantsui/aorus-5090-egpu.git -b nvidia-610.43.02-ubuntu-5060ti
                        
                        # cd aorus-5090-egpu
                        
                        # ./install.sh 
                        replacing /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf
                        replacing /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf
                        replacing /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers-kms.conf
                        replacing /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-power-management.conf
                        installing /etc/modprobe.d/aorus.conf
                        replacing /etc/default/grub
                        installing /usr/local/bin/aorus-bridge
                        installing /usr/local/bin/aorus-modules
                        installing /etc/systemd/system/aorus.service
                        creating directory /etc/systemd/system/nvidia-persistenced.service.d
                        installing /etc/systemd/system/nvidia-persistenced.service.d/aorus.conf
                        installing /etc/udev/rules.d/99-aorus-egpu.rules
                        running update-initramfs -u
                        update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-6.17.0-122035-tuxedo
                        running grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
                        Sourcing file `/etc/default/grub'
                        Sourcing file `/etc/default/grub.d/50-tuxedo-fix-nvidia-preserve-vram-suspend.cfg'
                        Sourcing file `/etc/default/grub.d/90-tuxedo.cfg'
                        Sourcing file `/etc/default/grub.d/tuxedo-theme.cfg'
                        Generating grub configuration file ...
                        Found theme: /usr/share/grub/themes/tuxedo/theme.txt
                        Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-6.17.0-122035-tuxedo
                        Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-6.17.0-122035-tuxedo
                        Found memtest86+ 64bit EFI image: /boot/memtest86+x64.efi
                        Warning: os-prober will be executed to detect other bootable partitions.
                        Its output will be used to detect bootable binaries on them and create new boot entries.
                        Adding boot menu entry for UEFI Firmware Settings ...
                        done
                        reloading systemd manager
                        enabling aorus.service
                        Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/aorus.service → /etc/systemd/system/aorus.service.
                        reloading udev rules
                        install complete; reboot required
                        
                        1 réponse Dernière réponse
                        0
                        • Tuxedo17T En ligne
                          Tuxedo17T En ligne
                          Tuxedo17
                          écrit dernière édition par
                          #58

                          Le script ne voit pas la bonne carte :

                          # /usr/local/bin/aorus-bridge detect
                          0000:00:01.0
                          

                          Je pense qu’il fonctionne seulement quand on a une seule carte.

                          Je vais donc modifier : /usr/local/bin/aorus-bridge .

                          J’ai donc :

                          # lspci -nn | grep -e NVIDIA
                          01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GA106M [GeForce RTX 3060 Mobile / Max-Q] [10de:2520] (rev a1)
                          01:00.1 Audio device [0403]: NVIDIA Corporation GA106 High Definition Audio Controller [10de:228e] (rev a1)
                          05:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GB206 [GeForce RTX 5060 Ti] [10de:2d04] (rev a1)
                          05:00.1 Audio device [0403]: NVIDIA Corporation GB206 High Definition Audio Controller [10de:22eb] (rev a1)
                          

                          En détail :

                          # udevadm info -q property -p /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:05:00.0 
                          DEVPATH=/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:07.0/0000:03:00.0/0000:04:00.0/0000:05:00.0
                          DRIVER=nvidia
                          PCI_CLASS=30000
                          PCI_ID=10DE:2D04
                          PCI_SUBSYS_ID=1458:41CD
                          PCI_SLOT_NAME=0000:05:00.0
                          MODALIAS=pci:v000010DEd00002D04sv00001458sd000041CDbc03sc00i00
                          SUBSYSTEM=pci
                          USEC_INITIALIZED=2566746846
                          ID_PCI_CLASS_FROM_DATABASE=Display controller
                          ID_PCI_SUBCLASS_FROM_DATABASE=VGA compatible controller
                          ID_PCI_INTERFACE_FROM_DATABASE=VGA controller
                          ID_VENDOR_FROM_DATABASE=NVIDIA Corporation
                          ID_PATH=pci-0000:05:00.0
                          ID_PATH_TAG=pci-0000_05_00_0
                          ID_FOR_SEAT=pci-pci-0000_05_00_0
                          TAGS=:seat:master-of-seat:systemd:
                          CURRENT_TAGS=:master-of-seat:seat:
                          # udevadm info -q property -p /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:01:00.0 
                          DEVPATH=/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0
                          DRIVER=nvidia
                          PCI_CLASS=30000
                          PCI_ID=10DE:2520
                          PCI_SUBSYS_ID=1D05:1146
                          PCI_SLOT_NAME=0000:01:00.0
                          MODALIAS=pci:v000010DEd00002520sv00001D05sd00001146bc03sc00i00
                          SUBSYSTEM=pci
                          USEC_INITIALIZED=1449305
                          ID_PCI_CLASS_FROM_DATABASE=Display controller
                          ID_PCI_SUBCLASS_FROM_DATABASE=VGA compatible controller
                          ID_PCI_INTERFACE_FROM_DATABASE=VGA controller
                          ID_VENDOR_FROM_DATABASE=NVIDIA Corporation
                          ID_MODEL_FROM_DATABASE=GA106M [GeForce RTX 3060 Mobile / Max-Q]
                          ID_PATH=pci-0000:01:00.0
                          ID_PATH_TAG=pci-0000_01_00_0
                          ID_FOR_SEAT=pci-pci-0000_01_00_0
                          TAGS=:systemd:master-of-seat:seat:
                          CURRENT_TAGS=:master-of-seat:seat:
                          

                          Je modifier donc modifier :

                          VENDOR_ID="${VENDOR_ID:-0x10de}"   # NVIDIA
                          # DEVICE_ID: exact PCI device id to match (e.g. 0x2b85 for RTX 5090). Leave
                          # empty to match ANY NVIDIA display controller by PCI class — this covers the
                          # whole RTX 50-series (5090=0x2b85, 5060 Ti=0x2d04, …) without a hardcoded list,
                          # in the same spirit as is_tb_tunneled below. Set DEVICE_ID to pin one board.
                          DEVICE_ID="${DEVICE_ID:-0x2d04}"
                          # PCI base class 0x03 = display controller (VGA 0x0300 / 3D 0x0302); selects the
                          # GPU function and excludes its HDMI-audio function (class 0x0403).
                          GPU_CLASS_PREFIX="${GPU_CLASS_PREFIX:-0x03}"
                          
                          
                          1 réponse Dernière réponse
                          0
                          • Tuxedo17T En ligne
                            Tuxedo17T En ligne
                            Tuxedo17
                            écrit dernière édition par
                            #59

                            Mise à jours du fichier : Fichier : /etc/default/grub

                            GRUB_DEFAULT=0
                            GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden
                            GRUB_TIMEOUT=0
                            GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR='tuxedo'
                            GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
                            GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="pci=resource_alignment iommu.passthrough=1 thunderbolt.host_reset=false pcie_aspm.policy=performance thunderbolt.clx=0 pcie_port_pm=off pci=resource_alignment=35@0000:00:01.0"
                            

                            Il a du voir la première carte, je change donc :

                            GRUB_DEFAULT=0
                            GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden
                            GRUB_TIMEOUT=0
                            GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR='tuxedo'
                            GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
                            GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="iommu.passthrough=1 thunderbolt.host_reset=false pcie_aspm.policy=performance thunderbolt.clx=0 pcie_port_pm=off pci=resource_alignment=35@0000:00:05.0"
                            
                            
                            1 réponse Dernière réponse
                            0
                            • Tuxedo17T En ligne
                              Tuxedo17T En ligne
                              Tuxedo17
                              écrit dernière édition par
                              #60

                              Premier bench sans crash :

                              # nvidia-smi 
                              Fri Jul 17 15:23:12 2026       
                              +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
                              | NVIDIA-SMI 595.71.05              Driver Version: 595.71.05      CUDA Version: 13.2     |
                              +-----------------------------------------+------------------------+----------------------+
                              | GPU  Name                 Persistence-M | Bus-Id          Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
                              | Fan  Temp   Perf          Pwr:Usage/Cap |           Memory-Usage | GPU-Util  Compute M. |
                              |                                         |                        |               MIG M. |
                              |=========================================+========================+======================|
                              |   0  NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 ...    Off |   00000000:01:00.0 Off |                  N/A |
                              | N/A   49C    P0             28W /  115W |       0MiB /   6144MiB |      2%      Default |
                              |                                         |                        |                  N/A |
                              +-----------------------------------------+------------------------+----------------------+
                              |   1  NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti     Off |   00000000:05:00.0 Off |                  N/A |
                              | 30%   36C    P0             19W /  180W |       0MiB /  16311MiB |      2%      Default |
                              |                                         |                        |                  N/A |
                              +-----------------------------------------+------------------------+----------------------+
                              
                              +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
                              | Processes:                                                                              |
                              |  GPU   GI   CI              PID   Type   Process name                        GPU Memory |
                              |        ID   ID                                                               Usage      |
                              |=========================================================================================|
                              |  No running processes found                                                             |
                              +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
                              
                              # llama-bench -m /models/gemma-3-1b-it-q4_k_m.gguf 
                              
                              ggml_cuda_init: found 2 CUDA devices (Total VRAM: 21656 MiB):
                                Device 0: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti, compute capability 12.0, VMM: yes, VRAM: 15849 MiB
                                Device 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU, compute capability 8.6, VMM: yes, VRAM: 5806 MiB
                              | model                          |       size |     params | backend    | ngl |            test |                  t/s |
                              | ------------------------------ | ---------: | ---------: | ---------- | --: | --------------: | -------------------: |
                              | gemma3 1B Q4_K - Medium        | 762.49 MiB |   999.89 M | CUDA       |  -1 |           pp512 |    16697.67 ± 675.30 |
                              | gemma3 1B Q4_K - Medium        | 762.49 MiB |   999.89 M | CUDA       |  -1 |           tg128 |        261.49 ± 2.71 |
                              
                              build: c3d47e696 (10030)
                              
                              

                              Donc important :

                              • De modifier /etc/default/grub .
                              • D’utiliser git clone https://github.com/lokmantsui/aorus-5090-egpu.git -b nvidia-610.43.02-ubuntu-5060ti
                                • De modifier le script /usr/local/bin/aorus-bridge

                              Bref je dois faire un audit de mon installation.

                              1 réponse Dernière réponse
                              0
                              • Tuxedo17T En ligne
                                Tuxedo17T En ligne
                                Tuxedo17
                                écrit dernière édition par
                                #61

                                Nouveau test : Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-UD-Q4_K_M.gguf => crash.

                                # llama-bench -m /models/Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-UD-Q4_K_M.gguf 
                                ggml_cuda_init: found 2 CUDA devices (Total VRAM: 21656 MiB):
                                  Device 0: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti, compute capability 12.0, VMM: yes, VRAM: 15849 MiB
                                  Device 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU, compute capability 8.6, VMM: yes, VRAM: 5806 MiB
                                | model                          |       size |     params | backend    | ngl |            test |                  t/s |
                                | ------------------------------ | ---------: | ---------: | ---------- | --: | --------------: | -------------------: |
                                /home/arias/Documents/llama.cpp/ggml/src/ggml-cuda/ggml-cuda.cu:104: CUDA error
                                
                                

                                Modèle Qwen3.6-27B-Q4_K_M.gguf : OK.

                                # llama-bench -m /models/Qwen3.6-27B-Q4_K_M.gguf 
                                ggml_cuda_init: found 2 CUDA devices (Total VRAM: 21656 MiB):
                                  Device 0: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti, compute capability 12.0, VMM: yes, VRAM: 15849 MiB
                                  Device 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU, compute capability 8.6, VMM: yes, VRAM: 5806 MiB
                                | model                          |       size |     params | backend    | ngl |            test |                  t/s |
                                | ------------------------------ | ---------: | ---------: | ---------- | --: | --------------: | -------------------: |
                                | qwen35 27B Q4_K - Medium       |  15.65 GiB |    26.90 B | CUDA       |  -1 |           pp512 |        760.71 ± 4.35 |
                                | qwen35 27B Q4_K - Medium       |  15.65 GiB |    26.90 B | CUDA       |  -1 |           tg128 |         21.50 ± 0.01 |
                                
                                build: c3d47e696 (10030)
                                
                                1 réponse Dernière réponse
                                0
                                • Tuxedo17T En ligne
                                  Tuxedo17T En ligne
                                  Tuxedo17
                                  écrit dernière édition par Tuxedo17
                                  #62

                                  Test unitaire de carte :

                                  # llama-bench --list-devices 
                                  ggml_cuda_init: found 2 CUDA devices (Total VRAM: 21692 MiB):
                                    Device 0: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti, compute capability 12.0, VMM: yes, VRAM: 15888 MiB
                                    Device 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU, compute capability 8.6, VMM: yes, VRAM: 5803 MiB
                                  Available devices:
                                    CUDA0: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti (15888 MiB, 15752 MiB free)
                                    CUDA1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU (5803 MiB, 5685 MiB free)
                                  
                                  
                                  # llama-bench -m /models/gemma-3-1b-it-q4_k_m.gguf -dev CUDA0
                                  ggml_cuda_init: found 2 CUDA devices (Total VRAM: 21692 MiB):
                                    Device 0: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti, compute capability 12.0, VMM: yes, VRAM: 15888 MiB
                                    Device 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU, compute capability 8.6, VMM: yes, VRAM: 5803 MiB
                                  | model                          |       size |     params | backend    | ngl | dev          |            test |                  t/s |
                                  | ------------------------------ | ---------: | ---------: | ---------- | --: | ------------ | --------------: | -------------------: |
                                  | gemma3 1B Q4_K - Medium        | 762.49 MiB |   999.89 M | CUDA       |  -1 | CUDA0        |           pp512 |   19952.89 ± 1896.43 |
                                  | gemma3 1B Q4_K - Medium        | 762.49 MiB |   999.89 M | CUDA       |  -1 | CUDA0        |           tg128 |        268.47 ± 0.43 |
                                  
                                  build: c3d47e696 (10030)
                                  # llama-bench -m /models/gemma-3-1b-it-q4_k_m.gguf -dev CUDA1
                                  ggml_cuda_init: found 2 CUDA devices (Total VRAM: 21692 MiB):
                                    Device 0: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti, compute capability 12.0, VMM: yes, VRAM: 15888 MiB
                                    Device 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU, compute capability 8.6, VMM: yes, VRAM: 5803 MiB
                                  | model                          |       size |     params | backend    | ngl | dev          |            test |                  t/s |
                                  | ------------------------------ | ---------: | ---------: | ---------- | --: | ------------ | --------------: | -------------------: |
                                  | gemma3 1B Q4_K - Medium        | 762.49 MiB |   999.89 M | CUDA       |  -1 | CUDA1        |           pp512 |    11023.49 ± 568.09 |
                                  | gemma3 1B Q4_K - Medium        | 762.49 MiB |   999.89 M | CUDA       |  -1 | CUDA1        |           tg128 |        229.36 ± 0.40 |
                                  
                                  build: c3d47e696 (10030)
                                  # llama-bench -m /models/gemma-3-1b-it-q4_k_m.gguf -dev CUDA0,CUDA1
                                  ggml_cuda_init: found 2 CUDA devices (Total VRAM: 21692 MiB):
                                    Device 0: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti, compute capability 12.0, VMM: yes, VRAM: 15888 MiB
                                    Device 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU, compute capability 8.6, VMM: yes, VRAM: 5803 MiB
                                  | model                          |       size |     params | backend    | ngl | dev          |            test |                  t/s |
                                  | ------------------------------ | ---------: | ---------: | ---------- | --: | ------------ | --------------: | -------------------: |
                                  | gemma3 1B Q4_K - Medium        | 762.49 MiB |   999.89 M | CUDA       |  -1 | CUDA0        |           pp512 |   19994.19 ± 1751.94 |
                                  | gemma3 1B Q4_K - Medium        | 762.49 MiB |   999.89 M | CUDA       |  -1 | CUDA0        |           tg128 |        268.49 ± 0.38 |
                                  | gemma3 1B Q4_K - Medium        | 762.49 MiB |   999.89 M | CUDA       |  -1 | CUDA1        |           pp512 |    11158.41 ± 527.54 |
                                  | gemma3 1B Q4_K - Medium        | 762.49 MiB |   999.89 M | CUDA       |  -1 | CUDA1        |           tg128 |        229.10 ± 0.37 |
                                  
                                  build: c3d47e696 (10030)
                                  # llama-bench -m /models/gemma-3-1b-it-q4_k_m.gguf 
                                  ggml_cuda_init: found 2 CUDA devices (Total VRAM: 21692 MiB):
                                    Device 0: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti, compute capability 12.0, VMM: yes, VRAM: 15888 MiB
                                    Device 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU, compute capability 8.6, VMM: yes, VRAM: 5803 MiB
                                  | model                          |       size |     params | backend    | ngl |            test |                  t/s |
                                  | ------------------------------ | ---------: | ---------: | ---------- | --: | --------------: | -------------------: |
                                  | gemma3 1B Q4_K - Medium        | 762.49 MiB |   999.89 M | CUDA       |  -1 |           pp512 |   16582.32 ± 1005.41 |
                                  | gemma3 1B Q4_K - Medium        | 762.49 MiB |   999.89 M | CUDA       |  -1 |           tg128 |        261.64 ± 1.81 |
                                  
                                  build: c3d47e696 (10030)
                                  
                                  
                                  1 réponse Dernière réponse
                                  0
                                  • Tuxedo17T En ligne
                                    Tuxedo17T En ligne
                                    Tuxedo17
                                    écrit dernière édition par
                                    #63

                                    Test :

                                    # du -sh /models/*
                                    769M    /models/gemma-3-1b-it-q4_k_m.gguf
                                    889M    /models/mmproj-BF16(1).gguf
                                    862M    /models/mmproj-BF16.gguf
                                    885M    /models/mmproj-F16.gguf
                                    5,3G    /models/Qwen3.5-9B-Q4_K_M.gguf
                                    16G     /models/Qwen3.6-27B-Q4_K_M.gguf
                                    21G     /models/Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-UD-Q4_K_M.gguf
                                    # llama-bench -m /models/Qwen3.5-9B-Q4_K_M.gguf -dev CUDA0
                                    ggml_cuda_init: found 2 CUDA devices (Total VRAM: 21692 MiB):
                                      Device 0: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti, compute capability 12.0, VMM: yes, VRAM: 15888 MiB
                                      Device 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU, compute capability 8.6, VMM: yes, VRAM: 5803 MiB
                                    | model                          |       size |     params | backend    | ngl | dev          |            test |                  t/s |
                                    | ------------------------------ | ---------: | ---------: | ---------- | --: | ------------ | --------------: | -------------------: |
                                    | qwen35 9B Q4_K - Medium        |   5.28 GiB |     8.95 B | CUDA       |  -1 | CUDA0        |           pp512 |      3041.38 ± 47.16 |
                                    | qwen35 9B Q4_K - Medium        |   5.28 GiB |     8.95 B | CUDA       |  -1 | CUDA0        |           tg128 |         70.57 ± 0.04 |
                                    
                                    build: c3d47e696 (10030)
                                    # llama-bench -m /models/Qwen3.6-27B-Q4_K_M.gguf -dev CUDA0
                                    ggml_cuda_init: found 2 CUDA devices (Total VRAM: 21692 MiB):
                                      Device 0: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti, compute capability 12.0, VMM: yes, VRAM: 15888 MiB
                                      Device 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU, compute capability 8.6, VMM: yes, VRAM: 5803 MiB
                                    | model                          |       size |     params | backend    | ngl | dev          |            test |                  t/s |
                                    | ------------------------------ | ---------: | ---------: | ---------- | --: | ------------ | --------------: | -------------------: |
                                    llama_bench: error: failed to create context with model '/models/Qwen3.6-27B-Q4_K_M.gguf'
                                    
                                    
                                    1 réponse Dernière réponse
                                    0
                                    • Tuxedo17T En ligne
                                      Tuxedo17T En ligne
                                      Tuxedo17
                                      écrit dernière édition par
                                      #64

                                      Test à faire avec https://huggingface.co/unsloth/Qwen3.6-27B-GGUF/blob/main/Qwen3.6-27B-Q3_K_M.gguf

                                      1 réponse Dernière réponse
                                      0
                                      • Tuxedo17T En ligne
                                        Tuxedo17T En ligne
                                        Tuxedo17
                                        écrit dernière édition par
                                        #65

                                        Installation d’outils pour Hermes Agent IA :

                                        # apt-get install ripgrep
                                        # apt-get install chromium-browser
                                        # npx playwright install-deps chromium
                                        
                                        
                                        1 réponse Dernière réponse
                                        0
                                        • Tuxedo17T En ligne
                                          Tuxedo17T En ligne
                                          Tuxedo17
                                          écrit dernière édition par
                                          #66

                                          Nouveau test avec /models/Qwen3.6-27B-Q3_K_M.gguf :

                                          # llama-bench -m /models/Qwen3.6-27B-Q3_K_M.gguf -dev CUDA1
                                          ggml_cuda_init: found 2 CUDA devices (Total VRAM: 21692 MiB):
                                            Device 0: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti, compute capability 12.0, VMM: yes, VRAM: 15888 MiB
                                            Device 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU, compute capability 8.6, VMM: yes, VRAM: 5803 MiB
                                          | model                          |       size |     params | backend    | ngl | dev          |            test |                  t/s |
                                          | ------------------------------ | ---------: | ---------: | ---------- | --: | ------------ | --------------: | -------------------: |
                                          llama_bench: error: failed to load model '/models/Qwen3.6-27B-Q3_K_M.gguf'
                                          
                                          # llama-bench -m /models/Qwen3.6-27B-Q3_K_M.gguf 
                                          ggml_cuda_init: found 2 CUDA devices (Total VRAM: 21692 MiB):
                                            Device 0: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti, compute capability 12.0, VMM: yes, VRAM: 15888 MiB
                                            Device 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU, compute capability 8.6, VMM: yes, VRAM: 5803 MiB
                                          | model                          |       size |     params | backend    | ngl |            test |                  t/s |
                                          | ------------------------------ | ---------: | ---------: | ---------- | --: | --------------: | -------------------: |
                                          | qwen35 27B Q3_K - Medium       |  12.64 GiB |    26.90 B | CUDA       |  -1 |           pp512 |        707.38 ± 5.11 |
                                          | qwen35 27B Q3_K - Medium       |  12.64 GiB |    26.90 B | CUDA       |  -1 |           tg128 |         18.31 ± 0.01 |
                                          
                                          build: c3d47e696 (10030)
                                          
                                          # llama-bench -m /models/Qwen3.6-27B-Q3_K_M.gguf -dev CUDA0
                                          ggml_cuda_init: found 2 CUDA devices (Total VRAM: 21692 MiB):
                                            Device 0: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti, compute capability 12.0, VMM: yes, VRAM: 15888 MiB
                                            Device 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU, compute capability 8.6, VMM: yes, VRAM: 5803 MiB
                                          | model                          |       size |     params | backend    | ngl | dev          |            test |                  t/s |
                                          | ------------------------------ | ---------: | ---------: | ---------- | --: | ------------ | --------------: | -------------------: |
                                          | qwen35 27B Q3_K - Medium       |  12.64 GiB |    26.90 B | CUDA       |  -1 | CUDA0        |           pp512 |        841.06 ± 9.58 |
                                          | qwen35 27B Q3_K - Medium       |  12.64 GiB |    26.90 B | CUDA       |  -1 | CUDA0        |           tg128 |         20.50 ± 0.02 |
                                          
                                          build: c3d47e696 (10030)
                                          
                                          

                                          Pendant le test sur les deux cartes j’ai lancé gpustat , j’ai les deux cartes qui tournent :

                                          # gpustat 
                                          tuxedo-17                              Fri Jul 17 17:14:51 2026  610.43.03
                                          [0] NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU | 58°C,  40 % |  4156 /  6144 MB | root(4148M)
                                          [1] NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti         | 62°C,  60 % |  8916 / 16311 MB | root(8908M)
                                          
                                          

                                          Quand je suis sur CUDA0 :

                                           gpustat 
                                          tuxedo-17                              Fri Jul 17 17:15:48 2026  610.43.03
                                          [0] NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU | 49°C,   0 % |     2 /  6144 MB |
                                          [1] NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti         | 68°C, 100 % | 12882 / 16311 MB | root(12874M)
                                          
                                          
                                          1 réponse Dernière réponse
                                          1

                                          Bonjour ! Vous semblez intéressé par cette conversation, mais vous n’avez pas encore de compte.

                                          Marre de refaire défiler les mêmes messages ? Créez un compte pour retrouver votre position, recevoir des notifications des nouvelles réponses, sauvegarder vos favoris et voter pour les messages que vous appréciez.

                                          Grâce à votre participation, ce message peut devenir encore meilleur 💗

                                          S'inscrire Se connecter
                                          Répondre
                                          • Répondre à l'aide d'un nouveau sujet
                                          Se connecter pour répondre
                                          • Du plus ancien au plus récent
                                          • Du plus récent au plus ancien
                                          • Les plus votés


                                          • Se connecter

                                          • Vous n'avez pas de compte ? S'inscrire

                                          • Connectez-vous ou inscrivez-vous pour faire une recherche.
                                          Powered by NodeBB Contributors
                                          • Premier message
                                            Dernier message
                                          0
                                          • Catégories
                                          • Récent
                                          • Mots-clés
                                          • Populaire
                                          • Web
                                          • Utilisateurs
                                          • Groupes